8ball
Published by PythiaFinance.
A System One decision model fine-tuned to be a Magic 8-Ball: it answers one
20-way choice question β "the asker posed the question in the state; answer it
with the classic Magic 8-Ball response that fits best" β with a calibrated
probability distribution over the canonical 20 answers (10 affirmative /
5 non-committal / 5 negative), each mapped to a signed alignment value in [-1, 1].
421M parameters (ModernBERT-large encoder + decision head), Apache-2.0, runs on
CPU (330β390 ms/question) or a single consumer GPU (5β10 ms). Loads like any
Laya checkpoint:
import laya
CRITERIA = { # the canonical 20, verbatim β the model was trained on exactly these
"It is certain": "Strong affirmative: no doubt whatsoever",
"It is decidedly so": "Strong affirmative: beyond question",
"Without a doubt": "Strong affirmative",
"Yes definitely": "Strong affirmative",
"You may rely on it": "Strong affirmative: dependable yes",
"As I see it, yes": "Mild affirmative: yes with minor reservations",
"likely": "Mild affirmative: probable yes",
"Outlook good": "Mild affirmative: favorable prospects",
"Yes": "Plain affirmative",
"Signs point to yes": "Mild affirmative: indicators favor yes",
"Reply hazy, try again": "Non-committal: rephrase and ask again",
"Ask again later": "Non-committal: no answer available right now",
"Better not tell you now": "Non-committal: answer withheld for now",
"Cannot predict now": "Non-committal: prediction unavailable at this time",
"Concentrate and ask again": "Non-committal: asker should focus and retry",
"Don't count on it": "Mild negative: unlikely",
"My reply is no": "Strong negative: the ball says no",
"My sources say no": "Strong negative: authoritative no",
"Outlook not so good": "Mild negative: unfavorable prospects",
"doubtful": "Mild negative: doubtful",
}
agent = laya.load("PythiaFinance/8ball")
result = agent.predict("Should I deploy on Friday?", {
"answer": {
"type": "choice",
"instructions": "The asker posed the question found in the state. Answer it with the classic Magic 8-Ball response that fits best.",
"criteria": CRITERIA,
}
})
probs = result["answers"]["answer"]["probabilities"] # {answer: p}, sums to 1
Sampling & deflection
The distribution is the point, so sample from it rather than taking the argmax.
When the model is unsure (p_max < 0.09, calibrated to this checkpoint), restrict
the draw to the five non-committal answers:
import random
NON_COMMITTAL = ["Reply hazy, try again", "Ask again later", "Better not tell you now",
"Cannot predict now", "Concentrate and ask again"]
def shake(probs, temperature=0.9, deflect_below=0.09):
pool = NON_COMMITTAL if max(probs.values()) < deflect_below else list(probs)
weights = [probs[a] ** (1 / temperature) for a in pool]
return random.choices(pool, weights=weights)[0]
The signed alignment score is value(answer) * probs[answer], where value runs
+1.0 β +0.1 down the affirmative ladder (in 0.1 steps: It is certain, It is
decidedly so, Without a doubt, Yes definitely, You may rely on it, Yes, As I see
it yes, likely, Outlook good, Signs point to yes), is 0 for all non-committal
answers, and β1.0 β β0.2 down the negative ladder (in 0.2 steps: My reply is no,
My sources say no, Don't count on it, Outlook not so good, doubtful).
Results
The 8-ball persona (held-out eval, n=620)
| metric | value |
|---|---|
| Sampled bucket mix | 49.7 / 25.1 / 25.2 (canonical: 50 / 25 / 25) |
| Brier vs persona gold | 0.0031 (teacher: 0.0095, uniform: 0.0175) |
| Mean p_max | 0.106 (p5 0.084 Β· p50 0.100 Β· p95 0.145) β deliberately humble |
| Deflection rate @0.09 | 18.7% of shakes fall back to the non-committal answers |
General decision skill (S1MB english-v1, 137 benchmarks, 26,269 judgments)
Evaluated with the official S1MB evaluator
(baseline-adjusted scores 0β100; extended-input condition --max-len 9216).
| model | noul | choice | score | Task Avg |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| TypeSafe Jev 1.13 | 64.77 | 67.31 | 46.69 | 59.59 |
| laya-typed-decisions (base, published) | 20.06 | 18.93 | 5.99 | 15.00 |
| 8ball v1 (persona-only fine-tune) | 18.77 | 17.14 | 2.14 | 12.69 |
| 8ball v2 (MTL r1, 47k items) | 28.87 | 21.47 | 19.18 | 23.17 |
| 8ball v3 (this model, 143k items, 6 epochs) | 33.85 | 24.82 | 21.43 | 26.70 |
The multi-task training traded ~1.7 Task Avg vs the base teacher for the persona (mix, alignment scale, humility) β and recovered general skill 12.69 β 26.70 along the way. Methodology is summarized under Training below.
Training
- Recipe: RLCD (upstream Laya loop) β proper-scoring-rule policy gradient (spherical 0.75 + ranked probability 1.0) over noisy logit projections, plus soft cross-entropy against gold distributions. 6 epochs total, fp32, per-type temperature calibration after the final epoch.
- Corpus (143,514 items, 0 skipped):
- Open-Jev
release-v2-redistributabletrain (79k, CC0) β all 12 sources, uncapped - 14 public NLP train splits converted to S1MB decision formats (30.1k): SNLI, HANS, PAWS, CREAK, SciTail, ETHOS, Civil Comments, DBpedia, AG News, poem_sentiment, ARC, OpenBookQA, AQuA-RAT, Banking77
- 8-ball persona gold (11.6k effective): laya-typed-decisions teacher distributions over 6,200 whimsical questions, bucket-rescaled to the canonical 50/25/25 mix, blended 70/30 with uniform (humility baked into targets)
- Qwen3.8-27B-generated coding/logic/finance decision cases (4.4k)
- Open-Jev
- Never trained on S1MB test rows β NLP conversion transfers decision formats (instructions/criteria/state shape read from local test schemas) applied to train-split rows only.
Limitations
- No world knowledge: it judges the state you hand it. Without evidence in the state it is deliberately near-uniform β an honest 8-ball, not an oracle.
- The persona is trained-in: this checkpoint is near-uniform on almost everything.
For general typed decisions use
convaiinnovations/laya-typed-decisions. - Score-primitive skill is weak (21.4) relative to frontier decision models.
- Trained for the fixed 20-option 8-ball choice; other option sets work (request-time declaration) but are not calibrated for.
Intended use
A calibrated, whimsical decision layer: "should Iβ¦" questions in β an 8-ball answer with a signed alignment score between β1 and +1 (direction from the sampled answer, magnitude from the probability mass). See Sampling & deflection above (deflection threshold calibrated to this checkpoint: 0.09).
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