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The plan is one model that supports both reasoning and non-reasoning modes through Qwen3.8’s canonical chat template, rather than separate versions. FP8, GGUF, NVFP4, and the XL quants will all be variants of that same model.
Hi akierum,
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words.
I stepped back from pi-tune for a while, but I am happy to confirm an upcoming Qwen3.8-27B-pi-tune. I aim to complete the full release by next Friday, 09/11/26.
I am trying my best to adhere to Qwen3.8's canonical reasoning template and intended reasoning behaviors with the target of harness/tool fluency and token efficiency. The upcoming release will be one model with FP8, GGUF, NVFP4, etc.... I will be including a diverse set of benchmarks and (hopefully) an interesting accompanying write-up.
As for the planned Qwen3.6-35B-A3B, I spent a lot of time training it and wasn't happy with it. I decided not to ship it as I couldn't recommend it over the 27B, and it exhibited functional and behavioral concerns. I've since concluded that future MoE model releases from the Qwen family will require a more planned and informed approach as to not degrade the base model.
I'm finalizing 3.8-27B now and have interesting plans for 3.5-9B afterwards.
As for the XL quants, I'll make sure they're in this release. And thanks again for the evaluation data. If anything else turns up, feel free to send it over, I'm always glad to see data from real use.
will there be qwen 3.8 27B version ?
I just wanted to share an update on the progress of future releases for Qwen3.6-pi-tuned family models.
Both 27B and 35B models are now unified under native think/no-think functionality.
The biggest lesson I started to learn after reviewing many suggestions: Fine-tuning for local open-weight agents isn't just about raw coding capability or benchmark numbers. Harness fluency, tool-calling, validation loops, and user-facing behavior matter just as much, sometimes more.
That insight and philosophy is exactly what v2 is based on.
Although it hasn't even been a month since the original release I wanted to get out the 35B-A3B variant as soon as possible due to popular demand.
With the current and upcoming releases of a new class of Agentic LLM's (Fable, GPT5.6, etc) expect v3 to be the best yet.
For everyone already running the original: what's it doing well, and what makes you reach for a different model? These suggestions help shape future releases.
https://huggingface.co/collections/bytkim/qwen36-pi-tune
PS: Heres a sneak peek at the newest version with the new 35B-A3B variant performing a one shot task. 😁